I’m sorry you had to deal with all that. I don’t move in those circles and honestly was only obliquely aware of you prior to Macuahuitl but that was such an interesting take, the kind of thing we need in the hobby, that I reached out to have you on my show. I did receive a some negative feedback after having you on, which is silly as we only talked about the game, but I shut that down offline. Please keep putting out great content.
I hope your future content can be divorced from this kind of drama. You are such a talented artist and designer, this drama-sphere is not worthy of your time imo. I’m also disturbed and sympathetic, especially with what happened with the one that rhymes with schmundit. I look forward to a TBE focused on games and free from this crap.
I agree with you. I dipped out on the OSR years ago. I've been calling myself an Old School Gamer -- even when I did podcasting for AD&D and the likes, I stuck to the original books only, discussing it in detail. I do that now again with my solo podcast.
Who cares about all these arguments? It's all vanity and pride. At the end of the day you just play the games you like with the people you like. That's all.
If you can't find people you like to play with there's a million other things you can find to do with your time, probably much of which is more valuable than gaming.
If you're trying to make money and a name for yourself doing this though, I'm not sure you can avoid this stuff completely. Maybe, but I have my doubts.
Been saying this for years. Grifters always talk about how many years they've been playing. The only thing that really matters for experience is how many hours have you played, how many players have you kept, and how many campaigns have been finished instead of withered.
Most of the OSR grifter crowd can't write anything beyond a lvl 1 one shot and that tells me all I need to know about their skills. Hanging on the coat tails of B2.
This was fascinating to somewhat read. Its way to long of bitch post but holy shit there is some crazy drama. I'm glad I have no idea who any of the people you named are, including yourself, besides Ginny Di. She's nice to look at and a pleasure to listen to. I'm curious about your games and will kick around some rocks on the other folks, because its this drama that peaks me more than the labeling of games. Shit I thought OSR meant old school rules. I didn't realize there was a culture war going on.
I'm glad to read that you are leaving behind labels and pursuing your passion. In the end, its the healthiest thing you can do and I wish you much success in your future endeavors.
I was thinking about possible starting a blog on my experience with this new hobby (Covid got me started), but after reading this I think I'll be happier in my own corner, playing and creating games I enjoy.
Thankfully not all of the BROSR ppl are like that, but some of the bigger voices in it are douche bags. All in all, if you the people it's great to try and play the way Gary and Dave first did at least once but not every RPG NEEDS to be played like that and given how burnt out Dave was running these mega games... it's not a healthy to run all your games like it.
As for the culture war, sadly now that we're winning we're seeing what always happens in victory; the ones making money of off the battle want to keep it going. While I've been a solider in this battle for a long time, I'm glad I don't need to waste as much time and energy in it anymore and can't wait for movies and TV shows to be normal again. Granted I never had any money invested in it but even if I did I would think it pretty sad of me if I couldn't just take my creativity and energy and find something new to do with it.
Your probably aware, but he Classic Adventure Gaming guys are talking about a lot of what the BROSR talk about, but they are distinctly their own group.
Great resources and insight, man. Yeah I should note that before this shift, it was a good place to get knowledge. Things have changed, and I believe they are not for the better. But thank you for the comment. It's up to us to build the kind of hobby we want to be a part of.
Nothing has made me care less about D&D as a whole than the OSR.
I’m sorry you had to deal with all that. I don’t move in those circles and honestly was only obliquely aware of you prior to Macuahuitl but that was such an interesting take, the kind of thing we need in the hobby, that I reached out to have you on my show. I did receive a some negative feedback after having you on, which is silly as we only talked about the game, but I shut that down offline. Please keep putting out great content.
Thanks for the comment and sorry if you suffered any negativity because of me.
No worries, it’s part of the gig. I don’t regret it and you are welcome back anytime.
I hope your future content can be divorced from this kind of drama. You are such a talented artist and designer, this drama-sphere is not worthy of your time imo. I’m also disturbed and sympathetic, especially with what happened with the one that rhymes with schmundit. I look forward to a TBE focused on games and free from this crap.
As I said on twitter, I'm one and done, go for the jugular, here are the facts, lets move on.
I agree with you. I dipped out on the OSR years ago. I've been calling myself an Old School Gamer -- even when I did podcasting for AD&D and the likes, I stuck to the original books only, discussing it in detail. I do that now again with my solo podcast.
What makes Total Party Skills an enjoyable system? Forget what Joshua R. Holland rants about in the Texas humidity.
Make good games and share them with people.
You're an Orthodox Christian.
Christ is risen!
Who cares about all these arguments? It's all vanity and pride. At the end of the day you just play the games you like with the people you like. That's all.
If you can't find people you like to play with there's a million other things you can find to do with your time, probably much of which is more valuable than gaming.
If you're trying to make money and a name for yourself doing this though, I'm not sure you can avoid this stuff completely. Maybe, but I have my doubts.
I make my living doing art and illustration and my own books. So yes, this is my job. So I have to engage in these things.
Been saying this for years. Grifters always talk about how many years they've been playing. The only thing that really matters for experience is how many hours have you played, how many players have you kept, and how many campaigns have been finished instead of withered.
Most of the OSR grifter crowd can't write anything beyond a lvl 1 one shot and that tells me all I need to know about their skills. Hanging on the coat tails of B2.
This was fascinating to somewhat read. Its way to long of bitch post but holy shit there is some crazy drama. I'm glad I have no idea who any of the people you named are, including yourself, besides Ginny Di. She's nice to look at and a pleasure to listen to. I'm curious about your games and will kick around some rocks on the other folks, because its this drama that peaks me more than the labeling of games. Shit I thought OSR meant old school rules. I didn't realize there was a culture war going on.
I'm glad to read that you are leaving behind labels and pursuing your passion. In the end, its the healthiest thing you can do and I wish you much success in your future endeavors.
I was thinking about possible starting a blog on my experience with this new hobby (Covid got me started), but after reading this I think I'll be happier in my own corner, playing and creating games I enjoy.
Thankfully not all of the BROSR ppl are like that, but some of the bigger voices in it are douche bags. All in all, if you the people it's great to try and play the way Gary and Dave first did at least once but not every RPG NEEDS to be played like that and given how burnt out Dave was running these mega games... it's not a healthy to run all your games like it.
As for the culture war, sadly now that we're winning we're seeing what always happens in victory; the ones making money of off the battle want to keep it going. While I've been a solider in this battle for a long time, I'm glad I don't need to waste as much time and energy in it anymore and can't wait for movies and TV shows to be normal again. Granted I never had any money invested in it but even if I did I would think it pretty sad of me if I couldn't just take my creativity and energy and find something new to do with it.
Your probably aware, but he Classic Adventure Gaming guys are talking about a lot of what the BROSR talk about, but they are distinctly their own group.
https://discord.gg/T2gEzua2
Great resources and insight, man. Yeah I should note that before this shift, it was a good place to get knowledge. Things have changed, and I believe they are not for the better. But thank you for the comment. It's up to us to build the kind of hobby we want to be a part of.
I made the PDF of my clone free (PWYW) on DTRPG.
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/488655/wight-box-original-medieval-fantasy-adventure-campaigns-pdf
As for BX, I kind of want to print up the original BECMI booklets. I have the RC but id like the boxed sets.